Project Opensky - B777 mit PSS Pane

[ruggero]

Hoi Simmerfreunde,

 

Frage ich möchte die Posky - B777 mit dem PSS-Panel fliegen.

 

muss hier die cgf oder änliches angepasst werden, oder kann ich das Panel einfach verlinken ohne etwas zu ändern?

 

Hat jemand diesbezüglich Erfahrungen gemacht, schon geflogen oder sogar eine solche Kombination in seinem hangar?

 

Weiss jemand auch wies bei der Posky 767 mit dem Panel von PIC 767 aussieht?

 

Für Eure Tips und Ratschläge wäre ich sehr dankbar

 

Gruss an die Flusigemeinde

 

Ruggero

[Markus Burkhard]

Hallo Ruggero

 

Die Kombination 767PIC und Posky's B763 Version 3 funktioniert perfekt. Alles was du dazu brauchst ist dieses File:

 

http://www.sls.lcs.mit.edu/ilh/fs/PIC-POSKY-v3-763.zip

 

Da gibt's eine ausführliche Anleitung.

 

Die Posky B777 hab ich vor einer Weile mal versucht mit dem PSS Panel zu betreiben, doch das Flugzeug ist mir immer im Boden versunken. Aber könnte sein das mittlerweile irgendjemand eine akzeptable Lösung gefunden hat.

Was definitiv NICHT geht, ist das Panel einfach mit dem anderen Flugzeug zu verlinken mittels panel.cfg . Du wirst es sehen wenn du die B767 bearbeitest...

 

Gruss Markus

[Roli]

Und wenn du mit der Anleitung für Pic+Posky 767 dort nicht nachkommst, kuckst du hier :D http://www.flightforum.ch/newforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4652

 

Gruess

Roli

[ruggero]

Hoi Markus, Hoi Roli,

 

danke Euch herzlich für die prompte Antwort und das mir zur Verfügung gestellte Material.

 

Mit diesen fachmännischen Erklärungen sollte ja wirklich nichts mehr schief gehen.

 

Wie gut gibt's doch das ILS-Forum Bravo!! :) :)

 

Grüessli

 

Ruggero

[Peter Guth]

hallo,

 

wir haben das gleichlautende Thema bereits sehr oft hier besprochen:

 

Das PSS B777 Panel kann nur bedingt in Fremdfabrikaten betrieben werden. Dafür sorgt der geniale Kopierschutz von Phoenix: Gauges (incl. dem darin integrierten Sound), Panel und Aircraft.cfg., sowie airfile bilden eine Einheit.

 

Man kann das Panel auf Drittanbieter übertragen, dann aber MIT airfile. Und, diverse PSS Funktionen gehen nicht, so z.B. der Loadeditor u.a. Diese Kombination funktioniert auch nur dann, wenn die Aircraft.cfg des "Drittanbieters" weitgehend gleiche Flug+Performancedaten hat.

 

So läßt sch auf diesem Weg zumindest ein funktionsfähige B777 mit der Standard-B777 von MS herstellen. Man hat dann z.B. das viruelle Cockpit.

 

Dazu muß aber die Aircraft.cfg der MS B777 verändert werden, z.B. so:

 

[fltsim.0]

title=Boeing 777-300 BA-Waves

sim=Boeing777-300

model=

panel=

sound=

texture=

kb_checklists=Boeing777-300_check

kb_reference=b777_ref

atc_id=LH

atc_airline=Lufthansa

atc_flight_number=665

atc_heavy=1

ui_manufacturer=Boeing

ui_type=777-300

ui_variation=British Airways - Waves of the City

description=On the outside, it may resemble the jetliners you've seen for years. Inside, however, it's a whole new bird. The newest plane in the long and proud Boeing family line is the 777, commonly referred to as the "Triple Seven." This long-range, fuel-efficient twinjet was first delivered in May 1995 to fill a gap in the market between the 747 and 767. It is capable of seating 368 to 386 passengers.

 

[General]

atc_type=BOEING

atc_model=B773

editable=0

performance=Cruise Speed \nMach 0.84 555 mph 893 kmh\n\nEngine options \nP&W 4000\nRR Trent 800\nGE 90 series\n\nMaximum Range \n5,960 nm 6,859 sm 11,038 km\n\nService Ceiling \n42,000 ft 12,800 m\n\nFuel Capacity \n45,220 U.S. gal 171,160 L \n\nMaximum Takeoff Weight \n660,000 lb 299,370 kg\n\nLength \n242 ft, 4 in 73.9 m\n\nWingspan \n199 ft, 11 in 60.9 m\n\nHeight \n60 ft, 8 in 18.5 m\n\nSeating \nSeats 386 to 550 \n\nCargo Capacity \n7,552 ft 213.8 m\n

 

[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]

max_gross_weight=660000 // (pounds)

empty_weight=281680 // (pounds)

 

reference_datum_position=0, 0, 0 // (feet) distance from FlightSim Reference position: (1/4 chord, centerline, waterline)

empty_weight_CG_position=0, 0, 0 // (feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from specified datum

 

max_number_of_stations=50

 

station_load.0=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000

 

;Moments of Inertia

empty_weight_pitch_MOI=18000000

empty_weight_roll_MOI=5500000

empty_weight_yaw_MOI=16300000

empty_weight_coupled_MOI=0.0

 

[flight_tuning]

cruise_lift_scalar=1.0

parasite_drag_scalar=1.0

induced_drag_scalar=1.0

elevator_effectiveness=1.0

aileron_effectiveness=1.0

rudder_effectiveness=1.0

pitch_stability=1.0

roll_stability=1.0

yaw_stability=1.0

elevator_trim_effectiveness=1.0

aileron_trim_effectiveness=1.0

rudder_trim_effectiveness=1.0

 

[GeneralEngineData]

engine_type=1 //0=Piston, 1=Jet, 2=None, 3=Helo-Turbine, 4=Rocket, 5=Turboprop

Engine.0=10.5, -32.6, -8.4 //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datum

Engine.1=10.5, 32.6, -8.4 //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datum

fuel_flow_scalar=1 //Scalar for fuel flow efficiency

 

[TurbineEngineData]

fuel_flow_gain=0.002 //Gain on fuel flow

inlet_area=113.0 //Square Feet, engine nacelle inlet area

rated_N2_rpm=29920 //RPM, second stage compressor rated value

static_thrust=84000 //Lbs, max rated static thrust at Sea Level

afterburner_available=0 //Afterburner available?

reverser_available=1 //Thrust reverser available?

 

[jet_engine]

thrust_scalar=1.0

 

[electrical]

;BusType, MaxAmpLoad, MinVoltage BusTypes:0=MainBus,1=AvionicsBus,2=BatteryBus,3=HotBatteryBus,4-7=Generator/AlternatorBus(1-4)

flap_motor=0, 5 , 17.0

gear_motor=0, 5 , 17.0

autopilot=0, 5 , 17.0

avionics_bus=0, 0, 17.0

avionics=1, 0 , 17.0

pitot_heat=0, 2 , 17.0

additional_system=0, 0, 17.0

marker_beacon=1, 0 , 17.0

gear_warning=0, 2 , 17.0

fuel_pump=0, 5 , 17.0

starter1=0, 20, 17.0

light_nav=0, 0 , 17.0

light_beacon=0, 0 , 17.0

light_landing=0, 5 , 17.0

light_taxi=0, 5 , 17.0

light_strobe=0, 0 , 17.0

light_panel=0, 0 , 17.0

 

//0 Class <0=none,1=wheel, 2=scrape, 3=float>

//1 Longitudinal Position (feet)

//2 Lateral Position (feet)

//3 Vertical Position (feet)

//4 Impact Damage Threshold (Feet Per Minute)

//5 Brake Map (0=None, 1=Left, 2=Right)

//6 Wheel Radius (feet)

//7 Steer Angle (degrees)

//8 Static Compression (feet) (0 if rigid)

//9 Max/Static Compression Ratio

//10 Damping Ratio (0=Undamped, 1=Critically Damped)

//11 Extension Time (seconds)

//12 Retraction Time (seconds)

//13 Sound Type

//14 Airspeed limit for retraction (KIAS)

//15 Airspeed that gear gets damage at (KIAS)

 

[contact_points]

point.0=1, 87.42, 0.00, -18.00, 1181.1, 0, 4.521, 90.0, 1.63, 2.5, 0.7235, 4.0, 4.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0

point.1=1, -19.50, -12.00, -18.50, 1574.8, 1, 4.521, 0.0, 1.91, 2.5, 0.7470, 6.9, 6.9, 2, 0.0, 0.0

point.2=1, -19.50, 12.00, -18.50, 1574.8, 2, 4.521, 0.0, 1.91, 2.5, 0.7470, 7.1, 7.1, 3, 0.0, 0.0

point.3=2, -14.17, -47.33, 0.00, 787.4, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0, 5, 0.0, 0.0

point.4=2, -14.17, 47.33, 0.00, 787.4, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0, 6, 0.0, 0.0

point.5=2, -83.33, 0.00, 2.50, 787.4, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0, 9, 0.0, 0.0

point.6=2, 42.67, 0.00, -3.75, 787.4, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0, 4, 0.0, 0.0

 

static_pitch=0.10

static_cg_height=17.56

 

[Views]

eyepoint=90.0, -2.65, 8.6

 

[flaps.0] //Inboard Trailing Edge

type=1 // 1 - tail, 2 - lead

span-outboard=0.2 // 0.0 .. 1.0

extending-time=25 // seconds

flaps-position.0=0 // degrees

flaps-position.1=0 // degrees

flaps-position.2=5 // degrees

flaps-position.3=15 // degrees

flaps-position.4=20 // degrees

flaps-position.5=25 // degrees

flaps-position.6=30 // degrees

damaging-speed=260 // KIAS

blowout-speed=300 // KIAS

lift_scalar=0.55

drag_scalar=0.55

pitch_scalar=0.55

system_type=1 //Hydraulic

 

[flaps.1] //Outboard Trailing Edge

type=1 // 1 - tail, 2 - lead

span-outboard=0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0

extending-time=23 // seconds

flaps-position.0=0 // degrees

flaps-position.1=0 // degrees

flaps-position.2=5 // degrees

flaps-position.3=15 // degrees

flaps-position.4=20 // degrees

flaps-position.5=25 // degrees

flaps-position.6=30 // degrees

damaging-speed=260 // KIAS

blowout-speed=300 // KIAS

lift_scalar=0.35

drag_scalar=0.35

pitch_scalar=0.35

system_type=1 //Hydraulic

 

[flaps.2] //Inboard Leading Edge Slats

type=2 // 1 - tail, 2 - lead

span-outboard=0.5 // 0.0 .. 1.0

extending-time=4 // seconds

flaps-position.0=0 // degrees

flaps-position.1=0.5 // degrees

flaps-position.2=0.5 // degrees

flaps-position.3=0.5 // degrees

flaps-position.4=0.5 // degrees

flaps-position.5=1.0 // degrees

flaps-position.6=1.0 // degrees

damaging-speed=260 // KIAS

blowout-speed=300 // KIAS

lift_scalar=0.05

drag_scalar=0.05

pitch_scalar=0.05

system_type=1 //Hydraulic

 

[Radios]

// Radio Type=availiable, standby frequency, has glide slope

Audio.1=1

Com.1=1, 1

Com.2=1, 1

Nav.1=1, 1, 1

Nav.2=1, 1, 0

Adf.1=1

Transponder.1=1

Marker.1=1

 

[keyboard_response]

//Breakpoint speeds (knots) on the keyboard increments of control surfaces.

//Speed at which the incremenet is reduced to 1/2 and 1/8 respectively.

elevator=150, 250

aileron=150, 250

rudder=150, 250

 

[direction_indicators]

//1 Type: 0=None, 1=Vacuum Gyro, 2=Electric Gyro, 3=Electro-Mag Slaved Compass, 4=Slaved to another

//2 Indicator number of slaving indicator if Type=4

direction_indicator.0=3,0

 

[LIGHTS]

//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing

light.0=3, -52.22,-103.52, 11.38, fx_navredh ,

light.1=3, -52.22, 103.52, 11.38, fx_navgreh ,

light.2=3, -54.34,-103.64, 11.38, fx_navwhih ,

light.3=3, -54.34, 103.64, 11.38, fx_navwhih ,

light.4=3,-139.00, 0.00, 8.42, fx_navwhih ,

light.5=2, -51.00,-103.40, 11.38, fx_strobeh ,

light.6=2, -51.00, 103.40, 11.38, fx_strobeh ,

light.7=1, -5.00, 0.00, -6.25, fx_beaconb ,

light.8=1, 22.00, 0.00, 18.30, fx_beaconh ,

light.9=4, 93.21, -2.50, 8.75, fx_vclighth ,

light.10=4, 93.21, -2.50, 8.75, fx_vclight776 ,

light.11=4, 93.21, 2.00, 8.75, fx_vclight776 ,

 

[EFFECTS]

wake=fx_wake

water=fx_spray

dirt=fx_tchdrt

concrete=fx_sparks

touchdown=fx_tchdwn, 1

 

[exits]

number_of_exits=2

exit_rate.0=0.4 ;Percent per second

exit_rate.1=0.4 ;Percent per second

 

[fuel]

Center1=0.0, 0.0, -4.0, 12400.0, 3.0 //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)

LeftMain=-7.0, -35.0, 0.0, 16400.0, 3.0 //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)

RightMain=-7.0, 35.0, 0.0, 16400.0, 3.0 //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)

fuel_type=2 //Fuel type: 1 = Avgas, 2 = JetA

number_of_tank_selectors=1

 

 

[airplane_geometry]

wing_area=4605.0 //Square feet

wing_span=200.0 //Feet

wing_root_chord=23.0 //Feet

wing_dihedral=6.2 //Degrees

wing_incidence=1.0 //Degrees

wing_twist=-0.5 //Degrees

oswald_efficiency_factor=0.6 //Measure of lift effeciency of wing

wing_winglets_flag=0 //Are winglets available?

wing_sweep=32.0 //Degrees, wing leading edge

wing_pos_apex_lon=25.0 //Feet, longitudinal distance from reference point, negative going aft

wing_pos_apex_vert=0.0 //Feet, vertical distance from reference point, positive going up

htail_area=1090.0 //Square feet

htail_span=70.7 //Feet

htail_pos_lon=-100.0 //Feet, longitudinal distance from reference point, negative going aft

htail_pos_vert=0.0 //Feet, vertical distance from reference point, positive going up

htail_incidence=0.0 //Degrees

htail_sweep=40.0 //Degrees, horizontal tail leading edge

vtail_area=573.0 //Square feet

vtail_span=27.3 //Feet, tip to body

vtail_sweep=35.0 //Degrees, vertical tail leading edge

vtail_pos_lon=-108.3 //Feet, longitudinal distance from reference point, negative going aft

vtail_pos_vert=5.8 //Feet, vertical distance from reference point, positive going up

elevator_area=137.0 //Square feet

aileron_area=68.0 //Square feet

rudder_area=232.0 //Square feet

elevator_up_limit=30.0 //Degrees

elevator_down_limit=30.0 //Degrees

aileron_up_limit=30.0 //Degrees

aileron_down_limit=15.0 //Degrees

rudder_limit=25.0 //Degrees

elevator_trim_limit=20.0 //Degrees

spoiler_limit=60.0 //Degrees

spoilerons_available=1 //Spoilerons Available?

aileron_to_spoileron_gain=3 //Aileron to spoileron gain

min_ailerons_for_spoilerons=10 //Degrees

min_flaps_for_spoilerons=0 //Minimum flap handle position when spoilerons activate

 

[Reference Speeds]

flaps_up_stall_speed=150.0 //Knots True (KTAS)

full_flaps_stall_speed=120.0 //Knots True (KTAS)

cruise_speed=482.0 //Knots True (KTAS)

 

[autopilot]

autopilot_available=1

flight_director_available=1

default_vertical_speed=0300.0

autothrottle_available=1

autothrottle_arming_required=1

autothrottle_max_rpm=90

autothrottle_takeoff_ga=1

pitch_takeoff_ga=8

use_no_default_pitch=1

use_no_default_bank=1

 

[forcefeedback]

gear_bump_nose_magnitude=3000 ; 0 - 10000

gear_bump_nose_direction=18000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees

gear_bump_nose_duration=250000 ; in microseconds

gear_bump_left_magnitude=2700 ; 0 - 10000

gear_bump_left_direction=35500 ; 0 - 35999 degrees

gear_bump_left_duration=250000 ; in microseconds

gear_bump_right_magnitude=2700 ; 0 - 10000

gear_bump_right_direction=00500 ; 0 - 35999 degrees

gear_bump_right_duration=250000 ; in microseconds

ground_bumps_magnitude1=1300 ; 0 - 10000

ground_bumps_angle1=08900 ; 0 - 35999 degrees

ground_bumps_intercept1=3.0

ground_bumps_slope1=0.20

ground_bumps_magnitude2=200 ; 0 - 10000

ground_bumps_angle2=09100 ; 0 - 35999 degrees

ground_bumps_intercept2=1.075

ground_bumps_slope2=0.035

crash_magnitude1=10000 ; 0 - 10000

crash_direction1=01000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees

crash_magnitude2=10000 ; 0 - 10000

crash_direction2=9000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees

crash_period2=75000 ; in microseconds

crash_duration2=2500000 ; in microseconds

 

 

Desweiteren müssen alle Panelbestandteile der PSS B777 ebenfalls in den betreffenden Panelordner kopiert werden, hier z.B. dann auch die Bitmaps für das Panel.

 

Gruß PG